We don't need another / a new discussion to prove it.
It is as it is.
Let this "fred" (discussion thread) live under the theme .......
long live this family
brothers, sisters, brethern, dogs, cats and birds, ants and flees, water and air and gas and Clare and Jim and him and the window Simm (??) and you and me and he and she and we and them and us and puss (???) and fish and the dish (it's on) and paper and pen.